The Bigger the Glob
"Izenglish" asks, What takes over the mind of an unqualified person when they get a torch and solder in their hands?
Contractor "BNM8EZ" wrote that he counted six spots that were apparently leaking or started after they "fixed" one or more of the others. Wouldn't it have made more sense to just replace it? he asked.
Water Heater Mistake
"This might not look like a horrible installation, but it is," says David Goodman.
"It was the replacement of an identical one-year-old unit. The drain is about an inch above the opening of the lower element. After draining the tank, there were more than six gallons that had not drained out."
In this photo of a suction line, what's wrong here? "profj" asks facetiously.
"What contractor thinks this is acceptable?" he then asks in all seriousness. And if you say it is acceptable, your explanation better be scientific (but it probably won't be.)
"Are the HVAC contractors out there — who are letting their HVAC technician minions represent their company — doing quality control, proper peer installations, proper firing and or retraining?"
Just Walk Away
"I had to shake his hand and just walk away," writes "Idontgetit," after he was called to service this restaurant unit cooler and comfort system. "Not gonna be able to own this one."
See the following two photos for more.
Humorous comments from others:
"Hook his temp control up and call it a day."
"The guys at the supply house told me it would work OK."
"What's up with the transformer mounted to the ceiling?"
"I always thought it was a joke , but apparently he actually found someone willing to work for beer."
"He got paid up front, then did the install," suggests contractor "Turtleman."
"I always thought it was a joke, but apparently he actually found someone willing to work for beer," adds "Snapperhead."
It's a custom made hammock!
"Better off letting it lay on the floor and put some plastic down.
The plastic will keep moisture off it, and make clean up easier when a real professional goes down there and vomits," replies "STEVEusaPA."
Re-insulating Walk-in Freezer Lines
Contractor Shootske describes this mess he found:
"Apparently, the old armaflex was deteriorating so this location needed to have the insulation on the suction lines for the walk-in freezer replaced. Well, this is what what was done. Now we have to remove old insulated flex duct, followed by frozen expanding foam and the original armaflex and then re-insulate using new armaflex."
Crazy Closet 1
This photo from "vstech" shows a condo air handler with the drain line running uphill and the trap against the closet door. It drains onto the floor.
Crazy Closet 2
The second photo from "vstech" is of a finished basement bedroom closet, that has no combustion air, and a single wall vent pipe against the duct insulation. "It was quite cooked insulation at that, and yes, that is a water heater beside it," he writes.
How NOT to Install a Condensate Drain Line
One of HVAC-Talk.com's best contractor members is JKoop. He's also very good at providing nice photography and complete descriptions of the hack jobs he encounters. Read on, as he describes this bad condensate drain line installation:
"No trap clean-out, no vent. This drain deserves an "F". It can "Air Lock" because there is no vent after the trap. With no overflow safety switch, no clean-out and no vent, one is just asking for several thousand dollars of damage due to condensate water backing up and overflowing the cooling coil drain pan flooding out this interior furnace closet. I was giving an estimate to replace this system as it was not operating, but had it been operating and this was a service call I would have not left it running in this condition. I would have made corrections unless the customer refused to and signed off on this statement.
"Install not up to industry or manufacturer standards, not responsible for any water damage due to installation conditions."
"How many years has this been like this? Twenty or so, and no one sees this? What an industry. I think plumbers know they need to vent drain lines; that is like 101 plumbing."
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The RIGHT Way
In contrast to previous photo, JKoop provided us with this photo of one his properly designed systems.
"Water liability now days is such a huge problem with mold and everything else that can happen there is no short cut to how we do it. Per Lennox factory specs I helped to design and illustrate I know how to do it right. Do this and condensate problems will be just about nil as long as you glue up the fittings and properly route the piping. If anyone is questioning the Rubitex insulation around the trap it is because the water in the trap is very cold and the trap would condensate being it is located in unconditioned space. The clean-out tee is one-inch so the Gallo Gun cone fits easily into the tee. See, we have thought of everything."